There are various options available to fit the needs of your fire pit or fire garden. If you aren’t 100 percent sure about which kit to order, take a look at the fire pit kit information page. Also check out examples that were made with these kits. If you still have questions email me at books@formandreform.com.
All orders must be placed through this site via paypal (no phone orders). You don’t have to have an account with paypal to process your credit card payment.
We ship on Wednesdays. Email if you need your kit shipped sooner: michelle@formandreform.com before you place your order.
Fire Kits with propane regulators:
These are great kits for making propane fire pits or sand gardens for your backyard.
Fire pit kit information page
Contains:
Fire Rings and Burners
- Fire rings in steel and stainless steel
Purchase
Steel Ring Kit options:
12″ steel ring kit with 30 psi Reg. $115.00
12″ steel ring kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $150.00
18″ steel ring kit with 30 psi Reg. $140.00
18″ steel ring kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $170.00
24″ steel ring kit with 30 psi Reg. $170.00
24″ steel ring kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $200.00
36″ steel ring kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $260.00
Stainless Steel Ring Kit options:
6″ stainless steel ring kit with 30 psi Reg. $155.00
6″ stainless steel ring kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $190.00
12″ stainless steel ring kit with 30 psi Reg. $185.00
12″ stainless steel ring kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $215.00
18″ stainless steel ring kit with 30 psi Reg. $220.00
18″ stainless steel ring kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $255.00
24″ stainless steel ring kit with 30 psi Reg. $265.00
24″ stainless steel ring kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $295.00
36″ stainless steel ring kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $395.00
30″ stainless steel dual burner kit with 30 psi Reg. $190.00
30″ stainless steel dual burner kit with 0-60 psi Reg. $220.00
Natural Gas:
The rings below can be used for natural gas applications. The ring should be hard plumbed with a control valve (ball valve, or a gas key valve) to regulate the gas flow and to shut off the gas. No venturi is required for NG. Please consult a local plumber or your municipality for local plumbing codes for your area.
Steel Ring options:
12″ steel ring $45.00
18″ steel ring $70.00
24″ steel ring $100.00
Stainless Steel Ring options:
6″ stainless steel ring $85.00
12″ stainless steel ring $115.00
18″ stainless steel ring $150.00
24″ stainless steel ring $195.00
Stainless Steel Dual Burner options:
30″ stainless steel dual burner $120.00
Regulator and Hose (no ring):
30 psi regulator and plumbing $80.00
0-60 psi regulator and plumbing $115.00
What would it take to convert one of your kits to be used with natural gas?
All you need from me is the ring. Use a key valve to adjust the flame and a flex hose, or hard pipe to the ring.
This is exactly what I was looking for. I need the 18″ kit, but I’m not sure of the difference in 30psi and 0-60psi. Can you help me understand the differences?
Thank you.
http://formandreform.com/wpstore/fire-kit-information/
The link you provided gives no information on the difference between the 30 and 0-60 psi options. How would I determine which option is best for my project? I know nothing about psi.
Thank you
Regulators:
30 psi regulator is a good economic solution for most applications. It maintains the pressure at 30 psi and you control the volume of gas (size of the flames) with the attached needle valve. Great for sand gardens and applications where a venturi is not used. Ok for use with a venturi.
0-60 psi regulator is the Cadillac. The pressure can be adjusted from 0-60 psi and you can control the volume with the attached needle valve. It also comes with a gauge so you can see what pressure you are at.
This gives greater control of the gas and more possible BTUs (size of the fire). When used with the venturi it also allows for a wider range of air/gas mixtures allowing cleaner soot free burns in many different media types. Recommended for large 24″ + sized rings.
I am building a rectangular pit with an 8 foot straight pipe. No sand, only rock and fire glass. Would you recommend the adjustable 60 PSI regulator and venturi to power this length? Any other parts other than propane and adjustable regulator?
You have more control with the 0-60 reg. I have no idea of your btu’s with the pipe but I would send you the bigger one I sell that goes with the 24″ ring. if you use 1/2 pipe you should have what you need in the kit.
Where can I purchase your venturi kit? I’ve built a small rectangular pit (36″) that uses a 1/2″ straight pipe with 3/32″ holes drilled every 1-1/2″ staggered at a 45* angle to the bottom of the pit. Pit is filled with lava rock and I’m getting more soot than I’d like. I’m running propane on a 10psi regulator and using a ball valve to adjust the output. Any info would be appreciated!
Josh
I only sell the venturi with my kits.
Than I shall design my own!
That’s what I do and it works well!
I am building a small Fire pit in back yard, 12″ ring using 5 gallon propane tank, can I bury the rubber hose included in the kit? It will be under stone and sand/semi covered porch.
I do not recommend burying the hose. Use 1/2 npt pipe to run underground and use the supplied fittings to attach to that.
Why do you not suggest the Venturi or Air Mixer for the sand? I have a friend with a sand fire pit and although the flame looks clean the surface become souty very quickly.
Non-porous media like sand could potentially block up the end of the plumbing and create a back flow, pushing the fire back into the plumbing and out of the holes of the venturi. The hazard doesn’t exist without the venturi because fire needs both fuel and oxygen, without a venturi there is no way for oxygen to get into the plumbing while the propane is being pushed through.
Could it be that the black soot you see is actually the sand itself turning black from the heat? If so, that’s normal.
Good evening!
What ring size would you recommend for a 23 inch fire bowl? The fire vessel is brass. Thank you!
18″
Hello , Im a Hardscape Contractor and I m looking to venture in firepit building. Ive been doing a little research and that is how I found your site. Can you direct me somewhere to further educate me on the mechanics of gas and propane assembly and also dos and donts when installing them? I want to hopefully start offering these this winter. I do a lot of stone work. Can you run lines underground from the burners to an external source or tank? Is there a limit on how far away your tank can be? Do you supply instructions with your kits?
I have instructions on my site for how I have used. You should follow local codes for hardscaping this stuff in. A plumber could tell you how.
Hi
Can I buy just the 60 psi and the Venturi off you and would you ship it to Melbourne Australia ?
If so could you let me know how much it would cost and how I would go about ordering them
Thanks
I only sell as a kit
Can this kit be used with a water/fire feature? I want to recirculate chlorinated pool water into a waterfall with a fire ring at the top of the fall.
I have used in water. Hard to keep lit and eventually will boil off the water
is the 100.00 dual burner a kit for lp? Have the air mixer?
Not sure what your asking and what kit your referencing to. The kitswith regulators are for propane and I sell an option to buy a venturi which is an air mixer.
You advertise a dual 30″ burner for 100.00. What is included in the kit? I guess my original post was not clear, I apologize for that.
Just what you see in the picture, a fire burner. The kit is above that.
Hi:
I am looking for a fire kit that would work on a 33-36 inch concrete firepit. The predrilled hole in the bottom is 1.25″. I have a couple of questions:
If that drain hole is plugged by the provided gasket, how does water drain out?
Can I connect your kit to a propane tank, the kind for a BBQ?
About how long would a fire burn from a propane tank, if on medium lets say?
Thanks!
Timothy
If water can drain out so can Propane. Make a removable plug, or keep water form getting in with a cover.
BBQ tanks work great for several nights of fun. 2-8 hrs depending on size of fire and ring.
How much heat can I expect to get from a 18″ burner with the 60psi regulator and venturi? How would it compare to a similar sized wood bowl fire?
150,000 btu if you use the Venturi. Compable to a wood fire.
Great – I want to order a kit today, just need advice on the size.
My bowl is 26″ with a 2″ rim, making it 30″ diameter. It will be hardscaped into a stacked bluestone pit. What size burner do I need 18 or 24?
18″ would work great
Kit came today complete with instructions from HTC
The pressure gauge came broken – the dial hand is not on the arm and I can’t get the cover off to fix it
I pried the cover off and replaced the needle dial – I should be good to go. Will send pics
let me know if you need a new one.
I HAVE A 18″ STAINLESS RING AND I’M GOING TO USE NATURAL GAS DO I NEED A REGULATOR. IF SO WHAT SIZE DO I NEED. THANK YOU
no but you will need a valve to regulate the flow.
I am in need of advice! I recently installed a 30″ LP Ring in a brick ring, and covered with “fire rock”. It is hooked up to a basic 5 gal BBQ tank (and I assume a small 30 psi regulator). When I light the pit, the flame seems to be inconsistant and sporatic. The flames are about 1-1/2″ tall. It seems that not all of the burner stays lit together. Do you think I may need more LP to it? or maybe to add another layer of brick to add more of a wind break?? please help!!! haha
is this a kit you bought from us?
Im building a 30″x60″x18″tall cast concrete fire pit what kit would you recommend for this rectangle ?
Thanks
Mike
two side by side 18″ rings with a 60 psi regulator.
I was curious and need help about your fire pit kits. Im looking to spend about $150.
I have a medium sized round wood burning cast iron fire pit I think the base is 10-12 inches in diameter and it stand 48 inches tall. If needed I can send a picture.
I need to know which kit would work for me as I’m want to get bi time heat out of this like 60k BTU hot enough to stand around and get warm in the winter. Note this will also get used at night in the summer time about 60/40.
I also need something that will give me a big flame as the fire pit I have is tall.
I also want to add fake logs and embers to give it a realistic fire look.
Any help direction and or advise would be appreciated.
How about stacking 12″ rings you can attach at the center with a nipple. Not sure if they will fit in your pit. 6″ would probably be too small.
Any of the regulators would have enough BTU to run a double ring.
Jon
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Hi Jon:
Firstly, I wanted to tell you that your workmanship on your lamps is beautiful. When I’m in the market for one, I’ll come to you first and will surely spread the word.
This morning I’m writing for guidance about a fire pit. I would like to convert it from LP to natural gas. There is a NG line which was run under the patio for this purpose and it sits approx 8-10″ above the cement.
Also, the fire pit’s ring is only 6″ and if possible, I’d prefer a larger one. The pan is 17.5″ across, so perhaps 12″ ring?
In summary, I need information on the
1. conversation kit: LP to NG
2. 12″ stainless steel ring kit (that will attach to NG)
Finally, I live in the Bay Area so I can travel to pick it up.
Many thanks and take care,
Jan
No venturi is required for NG and all you need from me is a ring. you can buy the rest of the plumbing from home depot
Hi and thank you for your quick response. So is the stainless 12″ ring what you’d suggest? Also, I went to HD and they had no idea what I needed. Can you please give me a list of the required NG parts? (or take photos of them?). I was frustrated at HD, but perhaps I made my needs unclear , which could be entirely possible becaus I’m a gal who’s doesn’t know the terminology since ive never done anything like before •¿• !
Thanks again and I’m sorry to be a bother. I’ll order the ring in the AM.
Take care,
Jan
Not knowing your installation I can not give you a list. Basically you need 1/2 NPT pipe fittings to connect to your gas supply on one end and my ring on the other. You will need a way to control the gas with either a 1/2 npt 1/4 turn ball valve, or a key valve (for fire places). I have a key valve for sale. When you pick up the ring I can show you the options.
I purchased a kit and have it installed and now everyone in my neighborhood wants one! My brother in law is here from Canada and wants a kit shipped here, the issue is he leaves next Saturday and we can’t wait until next week for your Wednesday shipping. Any chance you can ship today?
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I am interested in a large ring kit and understand everything from vessel connection to the tank. I want to hook this to a bbq grill tank but the picture does not show the same “fitting” to screw on to the tank? Also, can a small black galvanized pipe be used at the vessel connection to raise the burner? I may have a vessel too deep and want to ensure the burner is up towards the top. Thanks for the help
not sure what your asking about the fitting. everything is included to plumb to the tank, you can raise the ring with a nipple.
According to the pictures the end by the regulator does not look like it will screw onto a standard BBQ tank. It does not look like the same screw on fitting as what is on my grill. Is there a different fitting or a different picture I’m not seeing. The screw on part from the grill to the tank is female. Your picture looks to be a male fitting that screws on. Sorry for the questions. Just want to ensure I’m ordering the right stuff. Getting ready to convert wood fire bowl to propane.
BBQ tanks have 2 threads, one on the outside and one on the inside. This will fit the inside threads.
Excellent. Learn something new everyday. One last question. I’ve heard that the rings that draw larger btu’s sometimes will cause the tank to shut down. Not sure if it’s a safety feature of too much gas being drawn out at once or something like that. Any advice on something like that? Should I consider hooking the firepit up to a larger tank to avoid this possibly happening. I’m looking at about a 24, 30 or 36 inch ring and want as much warmth out of it as possible. I’ll have it turned all the way up most of the time. Thanks for the help.
there is a safety valve in the regulator that keeps it from releasing gas at full tank pressure. Not had it go off with my pit but I have had to remove for fire effects. Bigger tank will not help this problem but will be necessary for larger rings if you don’t want to be replacing tanks all night.
What size burner kit would I use for a 18″ pot, and would a glazed ceramic flower type pot work well for a firebowl?
12 will work great, not sure about the pot.
I have the same bowl depth problem as some of your commenters. You told one the burner could be raised with a nipple? Can you explain this a little…I’m not sure if this is an extension pipe or something other.
I’m growing to be buying one of your kits very soon.
Thanks,
Christian
A nipple is a short length of pipe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipple_%28plumbing%29
Simple question, do you ship to Canada?
Yes we ship to Canada.
When placing the order our sight will give you shipping options and the cost to ship.
Would a 0-20 psi regulator from a turkey fryer work? I ask because I have one sitting here and I plan to make a very small fire pit. If you can even call it a pit. It will be rectangular, maybe 4-5 inches wide, 12″ long.
20 psi regulator should work fine
Hi John,
I’m interested in building a fire pit using your kit and would like to fill it with sand. I understand that you cannot have any holes in the bottom of the vessel due to the back pressure of the gas in the sand. Does this mean that you always must keep the fire pit covered when not in use to prevent rain water build up? That wouldn’t seem practical for may pit designs. I’d appreciate your thoughts.
David
Yes, you need to keep covered, or build in a drain plug.
Hi Jon,
I have a wood burning fire bowl with a decorative base I bought from Lowes. We want to try and convert it to a LP tank with a ring. Is it possible to do this with the current bowl or would I have to purchase a new one? The current one is not steel. Thanks
I have seen many people convert these to gas. Check to make sure the gas doesn’t go out the bottom thru a hole.
What I mean is for the fire sand garden do you have to elevate the sand or do you just pour the sand in the pit
fill the pit with sand. Make sure there is no way for the gas to get out the bottom. This means no drain holes. turn ring over so holes point down.